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! align="left" | Notes
! align="left" | Lineup
| Possibly the biggest show SP ever played. Unknown source VHS(1)>DVD transfer circulates from this show.
| Corgan, Iha, Wretzky, Aronoff, Garson, Morris, Hodges
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! align="left" | Order of Bands
| Cracker, Furslide, The Smashing Pumpkins
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| SS-DSM-6S>PA-6LC>D100
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! align="left" | Lowest Circulating Generation
| DAT(M)>CDR
| DAT-M > CDR
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! align="left" | Live Music Archive
| [http://www.archive.org/details/tsp1998-07-17.shn 16-bit download]
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| DAT-M > CDR
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| AUD
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| Hi8
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| Unknown
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| ~125m
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| Yes
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| Hi8-M > VHS-1 > DVD
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! align="left" | Video Link
| [https://youtu.be/UTW-cWcCeXE YouTube]
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| VHS purchased from filmer, assumed to be 1st generation off a dubbing master. Tripod shot, from a rooftop across the street.
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| Unknown
| No
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| Unknown
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| Unknown
| Unknown
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* Thru the Eyes of Ruby
* Thru the Eyes of Ruby
* Perfect
* Perfect
* Sweet Leaf [Black Sabbath] (tease)
* Tonight, Tonight
* Tonight, Tonight
* Bullet with Butterfly Wings
* (percussion solo)
** Iron Man [Black Sabbath] (tease)
** Bullet with Butterfly Wings
* Shame
* Shame
* For Martha
* For Martha
Encore:
Encore:
* 1979
* 1979
* Transmission [Joy Division]
* Transmission [Joy Division] [22:34]
** Twilight Zone Theme [Constant] (tease)
** Let's Dance [Bowie] (tease)
 
=== Notes ===
* Free show
* Perfect, Sweet Leaf tease, and Tonight, Tonight performed acoustic
* According to media reports, a convicted murderer escaped from a minimum security facility to attend the show and was arrested at the concert


== Banter ==
== Banter ==
<blockquote>
<blockquote>
(unknown)
'''To Sheila'''<br>
> '''Behold! The Night Mare'''<br>
> '''Pug'''<br>
BC: Thank you.  How all you people doin’, you alright?  God bless you, thank you for coming, we hope you have a good night.  We’re the Smashing Pumpkins, nice to see you all.<br>
'''Tear'''<br>
'''Once Upon a Time'''<br>
> '''Ava Adore'''<br>
'''Daphne Descends'''<br>
'''Thru the Eyes of Ruby'''<br>
> '''Perfect''' (acoustic)<br>
BC: Alright, what’s up, Minneapolis?<br>
D’arcy: Minneapolis, I - for real, the only city who would allow us to do a free show.  Thank you.<br>
BC: Yes, thank you.  Just to contrast that, I think we did - we probably did about eight or nine free concerts in Europe and then our own home country of America and including our own home city of Chicago, they will not let us do something like this for free.<br>
D’arcy: Especially not downtown in the city center.<br>
BC: So we’d like to say a thank you to all of you, including you crazy people up on the roofs there, how you doin’?<br>
D’arcy: People hanging from the windows, don’t - don’t jump, please.<br>
BC: The Smashing Pumpkins do not endorse dangerous activity at any time, thank you.  By the way, my idols Black Sabbath are playing tomorrow at Ozzfest.<br>
'''Sweet Leaf''' (acoustic) (tease - Billy plays 5 or 6 notes of the riff)<br>
BC: Yes.  The Sabbath rules.  So we dedicate this song to Black Sabbath and to all of you for making this a great night for us, a wonderful night.  Yes, James, we will always remember tonight.<br>
'''Tonight, Tonight''' (acoustic)<br>
> '''drum/percussion solo'''<br>
> '''Iron Man''' (tease)<br>
> '''Bullet with Butterfly Wings'''<br>
> '''Shame'''<br>
'''For Martha'''<br>
BC: Thank you, goodnight.<br>
[encore break]<br>
Iha: Thank you very much, you guys have been really great.  You haven’t paid a dime but that’s cool, you’re rockin’ with us.  Is everybody okay?  Cool.  We would like to bring out, I guess, heh heh.  Well, we had a guest planned but maybe it’s just an imaginary guest.<br>
D’arcy: She’s hardly a guest.<br>
Iha: She’s hardly a guest to you people.  Take 20 guesses who we could bring out.  None of ‘em could be right because we don’t see the guest.<br>
BC: Dave Pirner, is that your special guest?<br>
Iha: Well, we have no special guest, heh heh.  So let’s keep rolling right along with the rock and roll portion of our show.<br>
BC: Yeah, what was supposed to happen was uh, the mayor of your beautiful city was supposed to tell you that it’s Smashing Pumpkins Day in Minneapolis.<br>
Iha: And [unintelligible].<br>
BC: ‘Course you don’t know what that really means, Smashing Pumpkins Day, it means that we collect all your taxes for this particular day and we get keys to all your houses and we can revoke your driving privileges at any time.<br>
Iha: Cool.<br>
D’arcy: And you thought the concert was for free.<br>
Iha: And now we’d like to play one of our hit songs.<br>
BC: No, wait, I wanna tell a story first.  When did we first come to Minneapolis?  1988?<br>
Iha: ''(high pitched)'' 1988!<br>
BC: We first came in Minneapolis 10 years ago, we used to play over here at the 7th Street Entry.  We never dreamed that, you know, we would be playing here today with you all and so it’s a fantastic night for us and we hope it’s a fantastic night for you, thank you again, ''(blows kiss)'', god bless you.<br>
Iha: And now, a hit song.<br>
'''1979'''<br>
BC: We’d like to present you with your mayor.<br>
Mayor Sharon Sayles Belton: Wow, I wanna ask a big question: Are you enjoying the Smashing Pumpkins?  Yeah!  Tonight is the biggest night in downtown Minneapolis and we’re absolutely pleased to share a very special message with the Smashing Pumpkins.  Now we’ve been planning to have you in our town for a looong long time.  And we know, and we know that cities across the United States didn’t want the Smashing Pumpkins to offer a free concert in their city!  Booooooo!  But what did we decide in Minneapolis?  The Smashing Pumpkins are here!  Now, in honor of the wise decisions of the Minneapolis city council and the mayor and the downtown council and Rock 100.3...I am proud to share with you that today, we have decided that we are going to declare tonight, all day today, Smashing Pumpkin Day in the city of Minneapolis and may they long live!  This is the official proclamation and all the best to all of you.  Thank you very much!  D’arcy, you gotta give me some.  Take care, baby.<br>
BC: I have to say you have a pretty cool mayor.  She’s pretty cool.<br>
D’arcy: We’ve been doing charity shows all across the United States and in every other city, they send a ''representative'' from the mayor’s office.  This is the only city where the actual mayor has bothered to come and [unintelligible].<br>
BC: Okay, now we’re in trouble again, heh heh.<br>
D’arcy: We appreciate it though.<br>
BC: We appreciate it so....<br>
'''Transmission'''<br>
BC: Now, now, we’re going to call upon the UFOs to come down and join us in a celebration of life.  James, with your wicked slide...<br>
> '''Twilight Zone Theme''' (tease - Mike is playing under Transmission intro and Billy talking)<br>
BC: ...call upon the UFOs to come down and visit us.  We believe very firmly in our hearts that aliens will respond to blues music and blues music only.  And that’s why we turn to James at this moment to call down the UFOs.  I’m serious.  Hahahahaha.  ''(Twilight Zone Theme tease ends)''  Alright, you crazy people, are you ready to rock?  ''(song proper starts)''<br>
> '''Let’s Dance''' (tease)<br>
(BC at 16:53: Well, although we were unable to muster any aliens tonight, we still believe they’re coming to take over the world.  We figure you got about, uh, 17 months left to enjoy the planet so um, have a good time, heh.  Once again, we hope you make us your band for the apocalypse.  ...  That’s the end of the concert, you all can go home now.  Be safe, thank you, have a good night.)<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
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Latest revision as of 05:14, 11 May 2021

The Smashing Pumpkins
Date 1998-07-17
Venue Hennepin Avenue (Block E)
Location Minneapolis, MN, US
Venue Type Plaza
Capacity ~125,000
Lineup Corgan, Iha, Wretzky, Aronoff, Garson, Morris, Hodges
Order of Bands Cracker, Furslide, The Smashing Pumpkins
Surfaced Recordings
AUD #1
Source AUD
Format DAT
Equipment SS-DSM-6S > PA-6LC > TCD-D100
Length 126m
Complete? Yes
Lowest Circulating Generation DAT-M > CDR
Live Music Archive 16-bit download
AUD #2
Source AUD
Format DAT
Equipment CSC > TCD-D8
Length 124m
Complete? Yes
Lowest Circulating Generation DAT-M > CDR
AMT #1
Source AUD
Format Hi8
Equipment Unknown
Length ~125m
Complete? Yes
Lowest Circulating Generation Hi8-M > VHS-1 > DVD
Video Link YouTube
Notes VHS purchased from filmer, assumed to be 1st generation off a dubbing master. Tripod shot, from a rooftop across the street.
Unsurfaced Recordings
AUD #3
Source AUD
Format DAT
Equipment Unknown
Length ~100m
Complete? No
AUD #4
Source AUD
Format MD
Equipment Unknown
Length Unknown
Complete? Unknown
AUD #5
Source AUD
Format ANA
Equipment built-in > Walkman
Length 120m
Complete? Unknown
AUD #6
Source AUD
Format ANA
Equipment Unknown
Length Unknown
Complete? Unknown
AUD #7
Source AUD
Format ANA
Equipment Unknown
Length Unknown
Complete? Unknown
AMT #2
Source AUD
Format Hi8
Equipment Unknown
Length ~125m
Complete? Unknown
AMT #3
Source AUD
Format 8mm
Equipment Unknown
Length ~80m
Complete? No
SBD #1
Source SBD
Format ADAT
Equipment Unknown
Length ~125m
Complete? Yes
Notes Vault copy.

Setlist


Set:

  • To Sheila
  • Behold! the Night Mare
  • Pug
  • Tear
  • Once Upon a Time
  • Ava Adore
  • Daphne Descends
  • Thru the Eyes of Ruby
  • Perfect
  • Sweet Leaf [Black Sabbath] (tease)
  • Tonight, Tonight
  • (percussion solo)
    • Iron Man [Black Sabbath] (tease)
    • Bullet with Butterfly Wings
  • Shame
  • For Martha

Encore:

  • 1979
  • Transmission [Joy Division] [22:34]
    • Twilight Zone Theme [Constant] (tease)
    • Let's Dance [Bowie] (tease)

Notes

  • Free show
  • Perfect, Sweet Leaf tease, and Tonight, Tonight performed acoustic
  • According to media reports, a convicted murderer escaped from a minimum security facility to attend the show and was arrested at the concert

Banter

To Sheila
> Behold! The Night Mare
> Pug
BC: Thank you. How all you people doin’, you alright? God bless you, thank you for coming, we hope you have a good night. We’re the Smashing Pumpkins, nice to see you all.
Tear
Once Upon a Time
> Ava Adore
Daphne Descends
Thru the Eyes of Ruby
> Perfect (acoustic)
BC: Alright, what’s up, Minneapolis?
D’arcy: Minneapolis, I - for real, the only city who would allow us to do a free show. Thank you.
BC: Yes, thank you. Just to contrast that, I think we did - we probably did about eight or nine free concerts in Europe and then our own home country of America and including our own home city of Chicago, they will not let us do something like this for free.
D’arcy: Especially not downtown in the city center.
BC: So we’d like to say a thank you to all of you, including you crazy people up on the roofs there, how you doin’?
D’arcy: People hanging from the windows, don’t - don’t jump, please.
BC: The Smashing Pumpkins do not endorse dangerous activity at any time, thank you. By the way, my idols Black Sabbath are playing tomorrow at Ozzfest.
Sweet Leaf (acoustic) (tease - Billy plays 5 or 6 notes of the riff)
BC: Yes. The Sabbath rules. So we dedicate this song to Black Sabbath and to all of you for making this a great night for us, a wonderful night. Yes, James, we will always remember tonight.
Tonight, Tonight (acoustic)
> drum/percussion solo
> Iron Man (tease)
> Bullet with Butterfly Wings
> Shame
For Martha
BC: Thank you, goodnight.
[encore break]
Iha: Thank you very much, you guys have been really great. You haven’t paid a dime but that’s cool, you’re rockin’ with us. Is everybody okay? Cool. We would like to bring out, I guess, heh heh. Well, we had a guest planned but maybe it’s just an imaginary guest.
D’arcy: She’s hardly a guest.
Iha: She’s hardly a guest to you people. Take 20 guesses who we could bring out. None of ‘em could be right because we don’t see the guest.
BC: Dave Pirner, is that your special guest?
Iha: Well, we have no special guest, heh heh. So let’s keep rolling right along with the rock and roll portion of our show.
BC: Yeah, what was supposed to happen was uh, the mayor of your beautiful city was supposed to tell you that it’s Smashing Pumpkins Day in Minneapolis.
Iha: And [unintelligible].
BC: ‘Course you don’t know what that really means, Smashing Pumpkins Day, it means that we collect all your taxes for this particular day and we get keys to all your houses and we can revoke your driving privileges at any time.
Iha: Cool.
D’arcy: And you thought the concert was for free.
Iha: And now we’d like to play one of our hit songs.
BC: No, wait, I wanna tell a story first. When did we first come to Minneapolis? 1988?
Iha: (high pitched) 1988!
BC: We first came in Minneapolis 10 years ago, we used to play over here at the 7th Street Entry. We never dreamed that, you know, we would be playing here today with you all and so it’s a fantastic night for us and we hope it’s a fantastic night for you, thank you again, (blows kiss), god bless you.
Iha: And now, a hit song.
1979
BC: We’d like to present you with your mayor.
Mayor Sharon Sayles Belton: Wow, I wanna ask a big question: Are you enjoying the Smashing Pumpkins? Yeah! Tonight is the biggest night in downtown Minneapolis and we’re absolutely pleased to share a very special message with the Smashing Pumpkins. Now we’ve been planning to have you in our town for a looong long time. And we know, and we know that cities across the United States didn’t want the Smashing Pumpkins to offer a free concert in their city! Booooooo! But what did we decide in Minneapolis? The Smashing Pumpkins are here! Now, in honor of the wise decisions of the Minneapolis city council and the mayor and the downtown council and Rock 100.3...I am proud to share with you that today, we have decided that we are going to declare tonight, all day today, Smashing Pumpkin Day in the city of Minneapolis and may they long live! This is the official proclamation and all the best to all of you. Thank you very much! D’arcy, you gotta give me some. Take care, baby.
BC: I have to say you have a pretty cool mayor. She’s pretty cool.
D’arcy: We’ve been doing charity shows all across the United States and in every other city, they send a representative from the mayor’s office. This is the only city where the actual mayor has bothered to come and [unintelligible].
BC: Okay, now we’re in trouble again, heh heh.
D’arcy: We appreciate it though.
BC: We appreciate it so....
Transmission
BC: Now, now, we’re going to call upon the UFOs to come down and join us in a celebration of life. James, with your wicked slide...
> Twilight Zone Theme (tease - Mike is playing under Transmission intro and Billy talking)
BC: ...call upon the UFOs to come down and visit us. We believe very firmly in our hearts that aliens will respond to blues music and blues music only. And that’s why we turn to James at this moment to call down the UFOs. I’m serious. Hahahahaha. (Twilight Zone Theme tease ends) Alright, you crazy people, are you ready to rock? (song proper starts)
> Let’s Dance (tease)
(BC at 16:53: Well, although we were unable to muster any aliens tonight, we still believe they’re coming to take over the world. We figure you got about, uh, 17 months left to enjoy the planet so um, have a good time, heh. Once again, we hope you make us your band for the apocalypse. ... That’s the end of the concert, you all can go home now. Be safe, thank you, have a good night.)

Photos and Memorabillia

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