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The Smashing Pumpkins
Date 2000-11-29
Venue United Center
Location Chicago, IL, US
Venue Type Arena
Capacity 21,711
Lineup Corgan, Iha, Chamberlin, Auf der Maur, Garson, Holmes
Order of Bands The Smashing Pumpkins
Surfaced Recordings
FM #1
Source FM
Format WAV
Equipment sbLive!
Length 194m
Complete? Yes
Lowest Circulating Generation WAV-M > CDR-1 >SHN
Live Music Archive 16-bit download
Notes Includes ~30m interview with Billy and premiere of Untitled.
FM #2
Source FM
Format CDR
Equipment PDR-555RW
Length ~195m
Complete? Yes
Lowest Circulating Generation CDR-0 > FLAC
Notes Includes ~30m interview with Billy and premiere of Untitled.
WWW #1
Source WWW
Format WAV
Equipment PC
Length ~165m
Complete? Yes
Lowest Circulating Generation WAV-M > MP3
AUD #1
Source AUD
Format DAT
Equipment SS-DSM-6S > PA-6LC3B(170) > M1
Length 166m
Complete? Yes
Lowest Circulating Generation DDC-? > CDR
Live Music Archive 16-bit download
Notes Section 109, row 9.
AUD #2
Source AUD
Format MD
Equipment Unknown
Length ~165m
Complete? Yes
Lowest Circulating Generation MD-M > WMA
AUD #3
Source AUD
Format DAT
Equipment OKM-IIr > M1
Length 165m
Complete? Yes
Lowest Circulating Generation DAT-M > CDR
Notes Section 105, Row K, Seat 9.
AUD #4
Source AUD
Format DAT
Equipment SS-DSM-6S > PA-6LC3 > M1
Length 167m
Complete? Yes
Lowest Circulating Generation DDC-? > CDR
Live Music Archive 16-bit download
Notes Section 3, row 23, directly in front of the right stack.
AMT #1
Source AUD
Format MiniDV
Equipment Unknown
Length 60m
Complete? No
Lowest Circulating Generation MiniDV-M > AVI
Notes Shot from right side, almost exactly even with the stage. Security duck during Stand Inside Your Love. Ends during Thru the Eyes of Ruby. MiniDV-M > VHS-3 > DVD transfer also circulates.
Unsurfaced Recordings
FM #3
Source FM
Format DAT
Equipment M1
Length Unknown
Complete? Unknown
AUD #5
Source AUD
Format DAT
Equipment SPHC > M1
Length ~165m
Complete? Unknown
Notes Glass and the Ghost Children is completely distorted.
AUD #6
Source AUD
Format DAT
Equipment SPSC > M1
Length ~160m
Complete? Unknown
Notes Possibly the same source as AUD #4.
AUD #7
Source AUD
Format MD
Equipment CSB > Att.(-20db) > MZ-R90
Length Unknown
Complete? No
Notes 1979 cut.
AUD #8
Source AUD
Format MD
Equipment ECM-MS907 > MZ-R37
Length Unknown
Complete? Unknown
Notes Section 1, Row 13. Taper sings backup.
AMT #2
Source AUD
Format Hi8
Equipment Unknown
Length ~120m
Complete? No
Notes Position varies. Cuts during Mayonaise and doesn't pick back up until Porcelina of the Vast Oceans.

Setlist


Set One:

  • Glass and the Ghost Children
    • Le Deux Machina (tease)
  • Today
  • Stand Inside Your Love
  • Thirty-three
  • To Sheila
  • Drown [6:31]
    • (drum solo)

Set Two:

  • Glass' Theme
  • The Everlasting Gaze
  • Bullet with Butterfly Wings
  • Rhinoceros
  • Thru the Eyes of Ruby
  • Mayonaise
  • If There Is a God
  • Cash Car Star
  • Zero
  • Rock On [Essex]
    • Heavy Metal Machine
  • Muzzle
  • Disarm
  • Tonight, Tonight
  • Siva [4:29]
  • Porcelina of the Vast Oceans

Encore One:

  • Cherub Rock
  • Purple Haze [Hendrix] (tease)
    • Ava Adore

Encore Two:

  • For Martha

Encore Three:

  • Starla [6:43]
  • 1979

Notes

  • Glass and the Ghost Children, Today, Stand Inside Your Love, Thirty-three, To Sheila, Drown, Muzzle, Disarm, and 1979 performed acoustic
  • For Martha with William Corgan Sr. on guitar
  • Numerous FM sources exist
  • First performance of Rhinoceros since 1997-02-05 (234 shows)
  • First performance of Thru the Eyes of Ruby since 1998-10-31 (150 shows)
  • First performance of For Martha since 1998-08-21 (155 shows)
  • First performance of Starla since 1997-01-28 (240 shows)
  • Last performances of Glass and the Ghost Children and Zero until 2007-05-22
  • Last performance of Glass' Theme until 2008-08-08
  • Last performance of Ava Adore until 2007-09-19

Banter

Banter

Silent Machines Intro
Glass and the Ghost Children (acoustic)
(BC alt lyrics midsong: And everywhere she looked, she saw the faces / The ones she had dreamed about in silent moments / Trapped in her suburban home, trapped in the suburban mindset / Trapped in the suburbs forever / She wrote her dreams in her diary and she placed them underneath her bed / And she said, "One day, someone will marry me, someone will love me for who I am and everything's gonna be alright.")
Today (acoustic)
BC: Good evening, good evening, good evening. How’s everybody doing, you alright? We'd like to thank the Smashing Pumpkins for letting us open for them tonight. Yes. We'd like to do a song from Machina I, this is called Stand Inside Your Love.
Stand Inside Your Love (acoustic)
Thirty-three (acoustic)
To Sheila (acoustic - full band)
BC: Thank you very much, thank you. This is a pretty old song, we'll see if you recognize this one. Some of you weren't born when we wrote this song.
Drown (acoustic)
Glass’ Theme
The Everlasting Gaze
> Bullet with Butterfly Wings
BC: Alright, alright, alright. I see y'all came to see a rock show. [unintelligible.] Whoo! Thank you very much, thank you. James?
Iha: Hello. Hello, Chicago. How are you? Is everybody having a reasonably good time? Yes? Power to the people.
BC: I always - I always wondered what you mean by that, "reasonably." What does that mean?
Iha: Reasonably? Uh, it's relative as, is this as good as a uh, a Jimi Hendrix concert in '68 or uh, as good as uh, I don't know, a Limp Bizkit concert?
BC: A what?
Iha: Uh, Stone Temple Pilots concert?
BC: Alright, alright.
Iha: But everybody's having fun. Okay.
BC: You know uh, this concert's being broadcast tonight over Q101. Anybody wanna say hello? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait a second. How hard was it to get this ticket? Do you want to say hello to the people at home? Ah, that wasn't so good.
Iha: I couldn't make that out.
BC: We'd like to play uh, a song from our first album. This is called Rhinoceros.
Rhinoceros
Thru the Eyes of Ruby
Mayonaise
> If There is a God
> Cash Car Star
> Zero
> Rock On (partial)
(BC after short Iha intro: Alright alright alright alright alright alright. It’s time to chill out this rock and roll party for a second. Take a deep breath. Ahhhhh. Ahhhh.)
> Heavy Metal Machine
BC: Thank you very much, thank you. I'd like to thank everybody very much for coming tonight. It's been a pretty crazy 13 years and uh...I'd like to say on behalf of my band that we know we've been very difficult at times and uh, not always the nicest, but I think in our hearts, we - we have a lot of love for our audience and um...I think the most important thing at the end of the day, with our band and - and, our relationship with uh, our fans, is that we care, we love you, we love ourselves, we love you, we'd like to thank you very much. Well, that was not a very good speech so I'll start again. So in uh - yes I love you too. So in honor all that - of all that, in honor of all that, I'd like to play a song for you, it's uh, one of my favorite songs that we've ever done and um, feel free to sing along if you know the words.
Muzzle (Billy solo acoustic)
Disarm (acoustic)
> Tonight, Tonight
Siva
Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
[encore break]
Cherub Rock
Iha: Thank you. Thank you very much. I would like to introduce the band. All the way from Brooklyn, New York, on the piano, Mr. Mike Garson. He's a good man. Hell of a guy. From Chicago, Illinois, on electronic keyboards, stuff and crazy sounds, Mr. Chris Holmes. And now, from Montreal, Canada, home of the liberal government, socialist, Miss Melissa Auf der Maur. And now, from Joliet, Illinois, bruisin' for a cruisin', pummeler of the drums, the invincible Jimmy Chamberlin. Jimmy was good tonight, wasn't he? He was rockin'. And now, center stage, lead vocals, crazy guitar sounds, songwriting, other sounds, Mr. Billy Corgan. Thank you Mike for that fine rendition of Chicago.
BC: And, all the way, all the way, I know, I know, we've had this talk. All the way from hell, Mr. James Iha!
Ava Adore (w/Purple Haze tease in intro)
Holmes: (with vocoder) Thank you, thank you, thank you.
BC: God bless you, thank you very much.
[encore break]
BC: I'd like to introduce a special guest tonight, my pops, Bill Corgan Senior.
For Martha (with Bill Corgan, Sr.)
BC: Thank you very much.
[encore break]
Starla
BC: Thank you very much, thank you. And now, the time has come. Oh yeah yeah yeah. James.
Iha: Yes? What up. Well, we have reached the end of uh, this raucous concert and um, I, we, would like to thank everybody for coming out tonight. Um, you rock and we appreciate everybody's support for the last six million years that we've been around and we'd like to thank all our families and all our friends for coming out and uh...I've seen a million faces and I've rocked them all. And now we will do one last jam for you. Wearing a Chicago Blackhawks jersey. My god, isn't it crazy? That's a rather strange looking uh, rock and roll garment you have on there. It goes well with your skirt there.
BCs: James, for thirteen years I've been listening to your stupid jokes and I've had enough!
Iha: I've had enough of your stupid jokes for the last thirteen years. And now, we solidify it by playing one last jam.
BC: Before we play this last song, let us say thank you very much again for thirteen amazing years.
Iha: Rock.
BC: I think it goes without saying that Chicago is the greatest place on this planet.
Iha: It's a very interesting city. Very diverse culturally, racially.
BC: I would like to see a winning hockey team again. A winning basketball team again. I would like to see the Cubs win one of these years before I die. Oh yeah, there's that other baseball team, it's a minor league team, the Sox? I'm sorry, I'm a Cubs fan, I can't help it. So everybody, sing along with us on this final song. We love you very much and thank you very much.
1979 (acoustic, Jimmy plays guitar)
Iha: Thank you, gracias, merci.


Following are comments from Q101 DJs before the show and during encore breaks.

[preshow]
DJ 1: —play concerts from time to time, but they're always edited, they're usually old, and tonight, you're getting it live as it happens.
DJ 2: Lot of smoke coming out from side stage, there's a ground-swell of people from the second teir, for a minute I thought it was happening, but uh, Whip, you got a way better vantage point than I got.
DJ 1: Yeah, I'm still looking down the corridor, they're not coming yet, but uh, we were told three minutes, about three minutes ago, so it could be literally any second. There are some people who look like they'd be friends of the Pumpkins, I, you know, rock star looking people coming this way, which might mean that the Pumpkins are doing their uh, you know, their pre-show chant or meditation or something, where they clear the dressing room.
DJ 3: Now I know there's a little green tent on one side of the stage, are either one of you guys able to see that, see inside that? Maybe the band's hanging there, waiting to jump out
DJ 1: I'm looking for the tent of which you speak, and I don't see it. But I hope that they're not in there, because in that case—
DJ 2: Oh, you know what, uh, Chase? I just looked, I'm right next to it!
DJ 1: Okay Robert, they're clearing the way, I think they're about to clear me out of the way, but I will tell you, the Pumpkins should be on their way right now. Okay, there are the couple coming out, looking like they're about to be followed by The Smashing Pumpkins. They are on their way. Here they come. The crowd doesn't know it yet.
DJ 2: I feel like telling everybody right next to me, but they have no idea.
DJ 3: Melissa, Jimmy, James,
DJ 1: A woman is—
DJ 3: Chris Holmes is going to be one of the band members playing tonight, playing keyboards, we know that. And some—
DJ 1: A woman is coming out, carrying uh, what looks like a black cape type of apparatus, obviously a Billy Corgan costume. And now Chris Holmes, who I understand is playing with the band, is coming out right now. There's Melissa Auf der Maur,
DJ 3: Well that's a sign.
DJ 1: Here comes James Iha dressed in a red suit. It looks like Jimmy Flemion from the Frogs is with them.
DJ 3: I can smell show time.
DJ 1: Chris Holmes just gave them the thumbs up.
DJ 2: The lights are off!
DJ 1: There's the crowd, they just spotted the, Chris Holmes, there's Jimmy Chamberlin DJ 2: Smashing Pumpkins— DJ 1: he gave me a smile, gave me a little pat on the back, Billy Corgan dressed in a white robe, a white turtleneck robe. He just gave the little heavy metal sign to the Q101 listeners.
DJ 3: Smashing Pumpkins live on Q101!

[encore break 1]
DJ 1: Q101, live from The United Center, we're backstage right now, where The Smashing Pumpkins just ended a two hour set. This is uh, I believe just the break between sets, they will go on for another encore, and uh, really, the only way we can describe this is "wow". And if you're listening around the world, this is Q101 WKQX, Chicago, broadcasting again, live. The second-to-last Smashing Pumpkins show, ever. And uh, Billy Corgan, came out in his patented, I don't know if you'd call it a dress, perhaps you'd call it a gown, but either way, if you've seen 'em, seen him in the last couple of years live, or if you've seen The Everlasting Gaze video, you've seen this outfit. Uh, but instead of the black outfit, tonight he came out in a white version of it, and the band played about five acoustic songs, uh, including Today and Drown. Now at the end of the last acoustic song, the band left the stage, all except for Jimmy Chamberlin, who kept drumming, he came back out, and Billy had on the black version of that outfit. And then the band uh, played, uh, what can only be described as a scorched earth set of music. Lights going crazy, band just rocking for lack of a better term uh, for several songs, and the show has been filled with, with, everything you could want to hear from the Pumpkins. Music from Gish, and of course music from Siamese Dream, and a lot of stuff from uh, the Machina albums, both one and two, and of course if uh, you know, if you have been online to get Machina II, you know that stuff. Or if you might have won one of the CD copies from Q101 uh, you know that stuff as well. And of course we're waiting for the Pumpkins to go back on stage, which they should do within a matter of minutes. Um, surprises tonight? Not so far, but we think that a lot of surprises will be saved for the encore presentation, so we know Billy's dad is in attendance tonight, and Billy's dad, if you don't know, is a guitarist in his own right, he's been a musician for a long time, he uh, helped in making Billy the guitarist that he is, and uh, he's played with Billy before. So we know that during soundcheck, Billy's dad was out there, playing guitar on a couple of uh, numbers with Billy. So we may see him tonight, at least that's the buzz through the crowd. Uh, Jimmy Flemion of The Frogs, he's a good friend of the Pumpkins, is out there as well, he may be coming out, uh, and uh, we don't know what else the Pumpkins have in store for us tonight. Uh, Muzzle was dedicated to the fans of the band, and it's sort of a sad song, which I believe was actually written to Billy's wife before they got a divorce, but now he's sort of dedicated that one to the fans. He's saying goodbye, saying "thank you very much", all things surely have to end, great love one day has to part. You know the song. Billy sang a solo acoustic version of that song, which was actually pretty moving here in the cavernous United Center, in Chicago, Illinois. Other highlights, they went back to Gish for Rhinoceros, which was a great song, they did Mayonaise from Siamese Dream. The um, Everlasting Gaze, was a, was a huge highlight, into uh, into Bullet with Butterfly Wings. And that was just, the crowd was in a frenzy, an absolute frenzy, when the Pumpkins did that. Again, we're waiting for them to go back on stage, and they should be doing that in just a couple of minutes from what we understand. You're listening to Q101's commercial-free broadcast. So the second-to-last Smashing Pumpkins show. Of course, we're a few days away from the last Smashing Pumpkins show, which will happen at Metro on Saturday night, and we've heard reports, by the way, the tickets for that show? Going upwards of thirty-seven hundred dollars. Thirty-seven hundred dollars from ticket brokers. Now the Pumpkins, going back on stage right now, and we'll throw it back to the stage, here at The United Center in Chicago, Illinois, this is Q101.

[encore break 2]
DJ 2: And so ends the first encore. Smashing Pumpkins, we are live, from The United Center, first of the last two shows, ever. It's all happening here in Chicago. If you're listening at home, we're expecting a couple more encores, and we're not done yet. After a two hour main set, we've got a ways to go here. Broadcasting the whole thing live, every drop of sweat that's poured on the stage, every note, we will catch it. That's what we're here to provide. We heard Cherub Rock, and then Ava Adore, um, I'm thinking they've got a few more albums to cover over the next couple of encores, and we'll see how it goes. Uh, the crowd here, you can't even imagine, the range of human beings here, the ages, the people, people who have been there since day one, since they were playing places like Avalon and Lounge Ax, and people who are perhaps new to the Pumpkins legacy, and watching this band for the first time and probably their last, just spellbound, awestruck. And the interesting thing about watching the Pumpkins tonight, uh, I've seen the Pumpkins a million times, and there seems to be, they seem to really be enjoying themselves. I mean, they're going out, they're really going out on a high note. Billy Corgan, smiling, joking. Iha, always quick with the dry lines onstage. They're just, they really seem to be basking in the moment, as they should. And that's what's going on. Pumpkins are right now at the side of the stage, getting organized. I'm seeing a lot of lighters, seeing a lot of double horns in the air. And uh, yeah, it's a given, they'll be marching back on mere minutes. Uh, they're enjoying a cold beverage, taking a breath. We are here live, it's Q101. Thanks for listening to us tonight, it's not over until it's over. And uh, yeah, it's been an amazing show. Um, Brian the Whipping Boy talked earlier, about Billy Corgan, his costume change to reflect the different moods of the show. It's been something to watch. Right now, they're in a huddle. Hangin' out. And they're using the bathroom, I was just told, okay. And, oh wait, here we go, here we go, potty break is over. The Pumpkins taking the stage. It's Q101, we are live!

[encore break 3]
DJ 1: This is Q101 in Chicago, my name is Brian the Whipping Boy, and you are listening live to exclusive concert footage, well it's not even footage really, because like I said, it's live. The Smashing Pumpkins, playing their second-to-last show, ever, right here live in Chicago, Illinois at The United Center. They are in the middle of the encores right now. Ad I think they are going to go back onstage maybe one more time to do another song or two. So you're listening live to Q101, and if you're listening on q101.com somewhere in the world, hello from Chicago. Um, We just heard Cherub Rock, followed by Ava Adore, a long version of that, and then the last song you heard is called For Martha, that's from the Adore album. Uh, that song on the album is actually dedicated to Billy's mother, and the uh, song just now on stage, Billy brought his father out, and then, his father and him, his father and he, traded guitar licks on the uh, closing part of that song. It was quite a moving moment, quite a touching moment, quite a memorable moment, here at The United Center, in Chicago. Like I said, the show is not over, and in a few minutes, or maybe even less, they will be heading back to the stage to finish up what has been truly an extraordinary night. The Smashing Pumpkins' penultimate show. Now of course, Saturday night, at a club called Metro, Chicagoans know it well, it's a small place, the Pumpkins will play their final show. Tickets for that going for thousands of dollars, and I hear the crowd, I believe the Pumpkins are ready to go back on. Pumpkins are headed back to the stage. Let's throw it back to the stage for the last segment, for the Smashing Pumpkins live, on Q101.

Photos and Memorabilia

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