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| Features last known performance of "Galapagos"
| Corgan, Iha, Wretzky, Walker, Flemion
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| Garbage, The Smashing Pumpkins
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| [http://www.archive.org/details/tsp1996-12-17.flac16 16-bit recording]
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| All circulating copies have pops in the right channel throughout the show, but a version exists with them removed.
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Set:
Set:
* Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
* Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness (over PA)
* Tonight, Tonight
* Tonight, Tonight
* Rocket
* Rocket
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* Thru the Eyes of Ruby
* Thru the Eyes of Ruby
* Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
* Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
* I Am One (tease)
* Slunk (tease)
* Slunk (tease)
* Galapogos
* Galapogos
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* Bullet with Butterfly Wings
* Bullet with Butterfly Wings
* Muzzle
* Muzzle
Encore 1:
Encore One:
* X.Y.U.
* X.Y.U.
Encore 2:
Encore Two:
* 1979
* 1979
* The Last Song (tease)
* Cherub Rock
* Cherub Rock
=== Notes ===
* Rescheduled from 1996-08-19
* Galapogos and Disarm performed acoustic
* 1979 with the Frogs


== Banter ==
== Banter ==
<blockquote>
<blockquote>
<b>Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness</b> (on PA)<br>
Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness Intro<br>
<b>Tonight, Tonight</b><br>
'''Tonight, Tonight'''<br>
<b>Rocket</b><br>
> '''Rocket'''<br>
Corgan: Hi, thanks a lot.  We are the evil Smashing Pumpkins.<br>
BC: Hi, thanks a lot.  We are the evil Smashing Pumpkins.<br>
<b>Fuck You</b><br>
'''Fuck You'''<br>
Corgan: Good evening, thank you very much.<br>
BC: Good evening, thank you very much.<br>
<b>By Starlight</b><br>
'''By Starlight'''<br>
<b>Where Boys Fear to Tread</b><br>
> '''Where Boys Fear to Tread'''<br>
<b>Zero</b><br>
> '''Zero'''<br>
Corgan: Thank you very much, how's everybody doing? Thank you for such a warm response, it's been a while.  I don't know what we're doing wrong but nobody seems to like us anymore so thank you very much for liking us.  Yes it's pathetic but we really want your love.<br>
BC: Thank you very much, how's everybody doing?<br>
Iha: With this next song, we really want your love, so everybody, be happy, cause today is a semi-OK day<br>
Iha: Good evening, good evening.<br>
<b>Today</b><br>
BC: Thank you for such a warm response, it's uh, it’s been a while.  I don't know what we're doing wrong but uh, nobody seems to like us anymore so thank you very much for liking us.  Yes, it's pathetic but we need your love.<br>
"Planet of the Apes" intro on PA<br>
Iha: With this next song, we really want your love so um, everybody, be happy.  ‘Cause today is a semi-okay day.<br>
<b>Thru the Eyes of Ruby</b><br>
'''Today'''<br>
<b>Porcelina of the Vast Oceans</b><br>
> Planet of the Apes clip<br>
Corgan: Thank you very much. Well, Matt has broken his kick-drum pedal, Matt, the drummer.<br>
> '''Thru the Eyes of Ruby'''<br>
Iha: [unintelligible]<br>
'''Porcelina of the Vast Oceans'''<br>
Corgan: He's so strong that he's...<br>
BC: Thank you very much. Well, Matt’s - Matt has broken his kick drum pedal, Matt, the drummer.<br>
Iha: Yes, Matt is quite the He-man drummer<br>
Iha: Ladies, ladies and gentlemen, Matt is -<br>
Corgan: So, what would you like to hear then, since we can't play any songs with Matt. I see. Your drum is fixed now, Matt? Well, now we don't want to play with you Matt, that's the problem<br>
BC: He's so strong that he just....<br>
Iha, on acoustic guitar, plays chords and teases <b>Slunk</b>: Right on, motherfucker.  [crowd cheers] Wow, all you have to be is be vulgar and get some attention<br>
Iha: Yes, Matt is quite the He-Man drummer.<br>
Corgan: Heh. [abandons after a few wrong notes] I'm not very good on the guitar.<br>
BC: So, what would you like to hear then since we can't play any songs with Matt. ''(crowd yelling)''  Oh, I see.<br>
<b>Galapagos</b><br>
'''I Am One''' (tease - Iha plays a few seconds of the riff)<br>
Corgan: Thank you very much. This is the part of the show where we tempt you with silence. [crowd cheers]<br>
BC: Your drum is fixed now, Matt? Well, we don't want to play with you now, Matt, that's the problem.<br>
<b>Disarm</b> (acoustic)<br>  
'''Slunk''' (tease - Billy plays through the riff once) (acoustic)<br>
'Circus' intro on PA<br>
Iha: ''(singing)'' Right on, motherfucker.  ''(speaking)'' Wow, all you have to is just uh, be vulgar and get some attention.<br>
<b>Bullet with Butterfly Wings</b><br>
BC: Heh heh heh.<br>
Corgan: We'd like to end the concert tonight on a Ted Nugent song. <br>
'''Galapogos''' (abandoned immediately - Billy gets the 2nd note wrong)<br>
BC: I'm not very good on the guitar, you have to excuse me.<br>
'''Galapogos''' (acoustic)<br>
BC: Thank you very much. This is the part of the show where we tempt you with silence.<br>
'''Disarm''' (acoustic)<br>
> Circus tape<br>
> '''Bullet with Butterfly Wings'''<br>
BC: Thank you very much.  We'd like to um, end the concert tonight with a Ted Nugent song. <br>
Iha: Yes.<br>
Iha: Yes.<br>
Corgan: Although it may not seem to have relevance to you at this particular time, it's a song for all the ages, and I don't mean just from 17 to 63. Anything to add there, brother?<br>
BC: Although it may not seem to have relevance to you at this particular time, it's a song for all the agesI don't just mean just 17 to 63. ''(laughing)'' Anything to add there, brother?<br>
Iha: Well...I don't know man. People have been nice. And... I don't know.  People of all race, creeds, colors, let's get it on.<br>
Iha: Well...I don't know, man, um, people have been nice. And uh...I don't know.  People of all race, creeds and colors, let's get it on!<br>
<b>Muzzle</b><br>
'''Muzzle'''<br>
Intermission...<br>
[encore break]<br>
Iha: Thanks a lot, you guys have been rocking. [strums some chords] We got the Chicago blues, you see.<br>
Iha: Thanks a lot, you guys have been rockin’. ''(Billy doodles a blues riff)''  We got the - we got the Chicago blues, you see.<br>
Corgan: Would you like to tell everyone, what kind of blues we're about to play?<br>
BC: Would you like to tell everyone what kind of blues we're about to play?<br>
Iha: Ah, yes.  Well, let's examine the music.  It starts off in 4-4 time signature and scored in guitar chord...<br>
Iha: Ah, yes, well, let’s - let's examine the music, it starts - starts off in a 4-4 time signature and there’s a distorted guitar chord and it moves into a -<br>
Corgan: That's not what I mean.<br>
BC: That's not what I mean.<br>
Iha: What? Oh, it's cyber-metal, cyber-futuristic metal. Let's fucking rock. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I stopped half-way through...<br>
Iha: What? Oh, it's uh, cyber metal, cyber futuristic metal.<br>
Corgan: Cyber-blues.<br>
BC: No, cyber - <br>
Iha: Oh, that part escaped me.  Cyber-blues rock, let's rock<br>
Iha: Let's fucking rock! I'm sorry, what, what, I'm sorryI stopped halfway through the spiel.<br>
Corgan: That's it?<br>
BC: The cyber blues.<br>
Iha: Um, alright, the name...<br>
Iha: Oh, I - ''(hits first chord for X.Y.U.)'' - that part escaped me.  Okay, cyber blues rock, let's rock.<br>
Corgan: These people paid a lot of money for an explanation<br>
BC: That's it?<br>
Iha: Listen, it's been a while since i"ve been to college, so I will just give the introduction to the name of the song. Ladies and gentlemen, the name of this next song is X.Y.U.<br>
Iha: Um...alright, the name -<br>
<b>X.Y.U.</b><br>
BC: These people paid a lot of money for an explanation.<br>
Iha: Gratsia, merci. Thank you very much for sticking around. Ladies and gentlemen I must introduce this green angel next to me, our good friend, it's Jimmy Frog. Jimmy Frog. And now ladies and gentlemen, his brother, on the keyboards, all the way from Milwaukee to rock with us on this tour, Dennis Frog. Dennis fucking Frog, let me say this again, Dennis Frog. And now, the man behind the drum kit, we've introduced him before but now we have to give him a proper introduction, all the way from Wilmet (?), Matt Cosmo Walker. Yes, Matt's an old family friend of our's and his father and my father went ice fishing about fifteen years together in Saskatoon. They met at a bait shop and I found this out just weeks ago and I'm still flustered.<br>
Iha: Listen, it's been a while since I’ve been to college, so I will just give the introduction to the name of the song, ladies and gentlemen, the name of this next song is ''(whispered)'' X.Y.U.<br>
Corgan: Are you saying you're Matt's uncle?<br>
'''X.Y.U.'''<br>
[encore break]<br>
Iha: Grazia, merci, thank you very much for sticking around. Ladies and gentlemen, I must introduce this green angel next to me.  Our good friend, everybody, it's Jimmy Frog! Jimmy Frog. And now, his brother, on the keyboards, ladies and gentlemen, he’s come all the way from Milwaukee to rock with us on this tour, Jimmy Frog’s brother, Dennis FrogDennis fuckin’ Frog, let me say that again, Dennis Frog!  Woo!  And now, the man behind the drum kit, we've introduced him before but now we have to give him a proper introduction, all the way from Wilmette, Matt “Cosmo” WalkerYes, Matt.  Matt's an old family friend of ours and uh, his father and my father went ice fishing about fifteen years ago in Saskatoon. They met at a bait shop, I found this out just weeks ago and I'm still flustered since.<br>
BC: Are you saying that you're Matt's uncle?<br>
Iha: Yes, yes. <br>
Iha: Yes, yes. <br>
Corgan: Now people, this of course is the point in the show where we used to ask people to come up to the stage and dance.  Used to...<br>
BC: Now, people....  This of course is the part of the show where we ''used'' to ask people up on stage to dance, used to.<br>
Iha: I'm feeling kind of nostalgic...<br>
Iha: Yeah.  I'm feeling kind of nostalgic, aren’t you?<br>
Corgan: Because of the unpredictable nature of Smashing Pumpkisn fan-type people, we can no longer do the dancing on stage.<br>
BC: Because - because of the unpredictable nature of Smashing Pumpkins fan type people, we can no longer do the dancing on stage.<br>
Iha: It seemed that whenever we did such act, we always got psychopaths on stage<br>
Iha: It seemed that whenever we did such an act, we only got psychopaths on stage and uh....<br>
Corgan: Of course, now there aren't any crazy people here, but you never know<br>
BC: Of course, not that there are any crazy people here but um, you never know.<br>
Iha: So, on this next dance we encourage you all to dance, yes, dance.  Let's do the bugaloo<br>
Iha: So on this next song, we encourage you all to dance, yes, dance.  Let's do the bugaloo.<br>
<b>1979</b><br>  
BC: In your seat.<br>
Iha: Is nothing sacred anymore? Ladies and gentlemen, let's have a round of applause for Jimmy Frog. He came all the way out here on a Lear jet, put the show together, got the shit together. We give it up for Jimmy Frog. And now we will go back to an older record of our's. It's a rock song, yes, hope you enjoy it.<br>
'''1979''' (with Jimmy Flemion)<br>
Corgan: This is the last song, this is the last song I can sing for you. [drumming Cherub intro] You think, Matt, after all this time, you'd learn how to do the fucking drum fill (?)<br>
Iha: Is nothing sacred anymore? Ladies and gentlemen, let's have a round of applause for Jimmy Frog. Yes, he came all the way out here on a Learjet, put the whole show together, got the shit together, we just - we give it up for Jimmy Frog. And now we will go back to a older record of ours. It's a rock song, yes, and we hope you enjoy it.<br>
Iha: He's a quick learner.<br>
''(Matt starts Cherub Rock drum intro)''<br>
Corgan: All the years in the circus<br>
'''The Last Song''' (tease)<br>
<b>Cherub Rock</b><br>
BC: This is the last song, this is the last song I can sing for you. ''(Matt continues with drum fill)''  You’d think, Matt, after all this time you'd learn how to do the fucking drum fill!<br>
Iha: He's a quick learner [unintelligible].<br>
BC: All his years in the circus.<br>
'''Cherub Rock'''<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>


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Latest revision as of 12:15, 26 February 2021

The Smashing Pumpkins
Date 1996-12-17
Venue Arco Arena
Location Sacramento, CA, US
Venue Type Arena
Capacity 17,317
Lineup Corgan, Iha, Wretzky, Walker, Flemion
Order of Bands Garbage, The Smashing Pumpkins
Surfaced Recordings
AUD #1
Source AUD
Format DAT
Equipment Schoeps MK5 > Custom Pre-Amp > TCD-D8
Length 95m
Complete? Yes
Lowest Circulating Generation DDC-? > CDR
Live Music Archive 16-bit recording
Notes All circulating copies have pops in the right channel throughout the show, but a version exists with them removed.
Unsurfaced Recordings
AUD #2
Source AUD
Format ANA
Equipment built-in > Walkman
Length ~95m
Complete? Unknown
SBD #1
Source SBD
Format ADAT
Equipment Unknown
Length ~95m
Complete? Yes
Notes Vault copy.

Setlist


Set:

  • Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness (over PA)
  • Tonight, Tonight
  • Rocket
  • Fuck You
  • By Starlight
  • Where Boys Fear to Tread
  • Zero
  • Today
  • Thru the Eyes of Ruby
  • Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
  • I Am One (tease)
  • Slunk (tease)
  • Galapogos
  • Disarm
  • Bullet with Butterfly Wings
  • Muzzle

Encore One:

  • X.Y.U.

Encore Two:

  • 1979
  • The Last Song (tease)
  • Cherub Rock

Notes

  • Rescheduled from 1996-08-19
  • Galapogos and Disarm performed acoustic
  • 1979 with the Frogs

Banter

Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness Intro
Tonight, Tonight
> Rocket
BC: Hi, thanks a lot. We are the evil Smashing Pumpkins.
Fuck You
BC: Good evening, thank you very much.
By Starlight
> Where Boys Fear to Tread
> Zero
BC: Thank you very much, how's everybody doing?
Iha: Good evening, good evening.
BC: Thank you for such a warm response, it's uh, it’s been a while. I don't know what we're doing wrong but uh, nobody seems to like us anymore so thank you very much for liking us. Yes, it's pathetic but we need your love.
Iha: With this next song, we really want your love so um, everybody, be happy. ‘Cause today is a semi-okay day.
Today
> Planet of the Apes clip
> Thru the Eyes of Ruby
Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
BC: Thank you very much. Well, Matt’s - Matt has broken his kick drum pedal, Matt, the drummer.
Iha: Ladies, ladies and gentlemen, Matt is -
BC: He's so strong that he just....
Iha: Yes, Matt is quite the He-Man drummer.
BC: So, what would you like to hear then since we can't play any songs with Matt. (crowd yelling) Oh, I see.
I Am One (tease - Iha plays a few seconds of the riff)
BC: Your drum is fixed now, Matt? Well, we don't want to play with you now, Matt, that's the problem.
Slunk (tease - Billy plays through the riff once) (acoustic)
Iha: (singing) Right on, motherfucker. (speaking) Wow, all you have to is just uh, be vulgar and get some attention.
BC: Heh heh heh.
Galapogos (abandoned immediately - Billy gets the 2nd note wrong)
BC: I'm not very good on the guitar, you have to excuse me.
Galapogos (acoustic)
BC: Thank you very much. This is the part of the show where we tempt you with silence.
Disarm (acoustic)
> Circus tape
> Bullet with Butterfly Wings
BC: Thank you very much. We'd like to um, end the concert tonight with a Ted Nugent song.
Iha: Yes.
BC: Although it may not seem to have relevance to you at this particular time, it's a song for all the ages. I don't just mean just 17 to 63. (laughing) Anything to add there, brother?
Iha: Well...I don't know, man, um, people have been nice. And uh...I don't know. People of all race, creeds and colors, let's get it on!
Muzzle
[encore break]
Iha: Thanks a lot, you guys have been rockin’. (Billy doodles a blues riff) We got the - we got the Chicago blues, you see.
BC: Would you like to tell everyone what kind of blues we're about to play?
Iha: Ah, yes, well, let’s - let's examine the music, it starts - starts off in a 4-4 time signature and there’s a distorted guitar chord and it moves into a -
BC: That's not what I mean.
Iha: What? Oh, it's uh, cyber metal, cyber futuristic metal.
BC: No, cyber -
Iha: Let's fucking rock! I'm sorry, what, what, I'm sorry. I stopped halfway through the spiel.
BC: The cyber blues.
Iha: Oh, I - (hits first chord for X.Y.U.) - that part escaped me. Okay, cyber blues rock, let's rock.
BC: That's it?
Iha: Um...alright, the name -
BC: These people paid a lot of money for an explanation.
Iha: Listen, it's been a while since I’ve been to college, so I will just give the introduction to the name of the song, ladies and gentlemen, the name of this next song is (whispered) X.Y.U.
X.Y.U.
[encore break]
Iha: Grazia, merci, thank you very much for sticking around. Ladies and gentlemen, I must introduce this green angel next to me. Our good friend, everybody, it's Jimmy Frog! Jimmy Frog. And now, his brother, on the keyboards, ladies and gentlemen, he’s come all the way from Milwaukee to rock with us on this tour, Jimmy Frog’s brother, Dennis Frog! Dennis fuckin’ Frog, let me say that again, Dennis Frog! Woo! And now, the man behind the drum kit, we've introduced him before but now we have to give him a proper introduction, all the way from Wilmette, Matt “Cosmo” Walker! Yes, Matt. Matt's an old family friend of ours and uh, his father and my father went ice fishing about fifteen years ago in Saskatoon. They met at a bait shop, I found this out just weeks ago and I'm still flustered since.
BC: Are you saying that you're Matt's uncle?
Iha: Yes, yes.
BC: Now, people.... This of course is the part of the show where we used to ask people up on stage to dance, used to.
Iha: Yeah. I'm feeling kind of nostalgic, aren’t you?
BC: Because - because of the unpredictable nature of Smashing Pumpkins fan type people, we can no longer do the dancing on stage.
Iha: It seemed that whenever we did such an act, we only got psychopaths on stage and uh....
BC: Of course, not that there are any crazy people here but um, you never know.
Iha: So on this next song, we encourage you all to dance, yes, dance. Let's do the bugaloo.
BC: In your seat.
1979 (with Jimmy Flemion)
Iha: Is nothing sacred anymore? Ladies and gentlemen, let's have a round of applause for Jimmy Frog. Yes, he came all the way out here on a Learjet, put the whole show together, got the shit together, we just - we give it up for Jimmy Frog. And now we will go back to a older record of ours. It's a rock song, yes, and we hope you enjoy it.
(Matt starts Cherub Rock drum intro)
The Last Song (tease)
BC: This is the last song, this is the last song I can sing for you. (Matt continues with drum fill) You’d think, Matt, after all this time you'd learn how to do the fucking drum fill!
Iha: He's a quick learner [unintelligible].
BC: All his years in the circus.
Cherub Rock

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