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| Corgan, Iha, Chamberlin, Auf der Maur
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! align="left" | Live Music Archive
| [http://www.archive.org/details/tsp2000-05-08 16-bit download]
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| [http://www.archive.org/details/tsp2000-05-08.CSB.MZ-R55.flac16 16-bit download]
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== Setlist ==
== Setlist ==
----
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Set:
* Glass and the Ghost Children
* Glass and the Ghost Children
* I of the Mourning
* I of the Mourning
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* Age of Innocence
* Age of Innocence
* Cherub Rock
* Cherub Rock
 
Encore One:
Encore 1:
* Blank Page
* Blank Page
* Bullet with Butterfly Wings
* Bullet with Butterfly Wings
** Once in a Lifetime [Talking Heads]
** Once in a Lifetime [Talking Heads] [4:13]
** Stay [Santana/Thomas] (tease)
* Everybody (Backstreet's Back) [The Backstreet Boys] (tease)
* We Love You (abandoned)
* We Love You
Encore Two:
* Mayonaise


Encore 2:
=== Notes ===
* Mayonaise
* To Sheila, Disarm, and Ava Adore performed acoustic
* Billy tells a quick story about Bob the hippie while introducing Disarm (see banter below); he tells a much better version of the story during his introduction for Today at the VH1 Storytellers taping on 2000-08-24
* Billy reads a letter from a fan during Blank Page
* Final performance of We Love You


== Banter ==
== Banter ==
<blockquote>
<blockquote>
(unknown)
'''Glass and the Ghost Children'''<br>
'''I of the Mourning'''<br>
'''This Time'''<br>
'''The Everlasting Gaze'''<br>
> '''Heavy Metal Machine'''<br>
BC: Good evening.<br>
Iha: Hello.<br>
BC: Hi.  Sorry, I just gotta take some pills, hold on.<br>
Iha: How are you?  You okay?<br>
BC: Heh heh heh.  Yes.  Thank you.<br>
'''Blue Skies Bring Tears'''<br>
'''Blew Away'''<br>
'''Stand Inside Your Love'''<br>
Le Deux Machina (tape)<br>
'''To Sheila''' (Billy acoustic w/Iha)<br>
BC: I’d like to, uh, play a song, uh, this is only the second time I ever played this song live so....  The first time I played it, everybody left ‘cause they didn’t like it.  Oh, it’s called, uh, Sunshowers and Raindrops or something.<br>
'''Raindrops + Sunshowers''' (Billy solo electric)<br>
BC: Thank you.  So, um, we’re gonna do one of those, uh, VH1 Storytellers.  So I thought I’d start practicing now.  This next song, um, I used to live with this, uh, this hippie named Bob, and uh...James knew Bob too.<br>
Iha: Yes, I knew Bob.  Bob was very weird.  Heh, what’re you doing, “Thank you, Bob.”  You didn’t know - you didn’t want to know Bob.<br>
BC: I mean, there’s good hippies and bad hippies and Bob was a bad hippie.<br>
Iha: ''(hippie voice)'' That’s right, man.  They fucking weren’t out there at the shit like I was.  Copters.<br>
BC: So, um, I guess that’s the story behind this song then.<br>
'''Disarm''' (acoustic)<br>
'''Ava Adore''' (acoustic)<br>
'''Today'''<br>
'''Tonight, Tonight'''<br>
'''Rock On'''<br>
> '''Zero'''<br>
BC: Thank you, heh, thank you very much.<br>
Iha: That’s nice.<br>
BC: On the drums, Mr. Jimmy Chamberlin.<br>
Iha: On the bass guitar, Melissa Auf der Maur.<br>
BC: I think I can, uh, I think now know what the influence of your race car driving has on the songs.  Okay, now we’d like to go back into depression.  This, uh, this concert’s a little too happy.  We must play sad songs to feel comfortable.  This is, uh, a song off, uh, this album we put out called Adore, I don’t know if you ever heard of it.  We actually recorded it in 1988 but we put it out in 1998.  Whatever.  This is called Perfect, thank you.<br>
'''Perfect'''<br>
> '''Age of Innocence'''<br>
> '''Cherub Rock'''<br>
Iha: Thank you.<br>
[encore break]<br>
'''Blank Page'''<br>
(BC over outro: Dear Billy - wait, James.)<br>
BC: Dear - you gotta hear this.  Wait, no, seriously.  Um, just seeing if that’s a bomb.  “Dear Billy, I’ve lived here my whole life and you remind me of one of those Disney characters.  I know that deep inside your hollow shell, you are nothing but a worthless piece of shit.  If only Walt Disney was alive, he would kick your ass and charge you royalties for stealing his cartoon gimmicks of fakery and malice.”<br>
Iha: I like that.<br>
BC: Wait, wait, there’s more.  There’s more.<br>
Iha: The first sentence was nice though, we gotta concentrate on what’s nice and positive.<br>
BC: Stay on the positive.  Wait!  There is a nice part here at the end.  Wait, there is a nice part at the end.  “P.S. You guys were good around Gish, please go back to playing that kind of music.”<br>
Iha: I, uh, I heard a couple negatives in there but I counted two positive points they made and uh, after the show, we’re gonna analyze it and you’ll see some results pretty soon.<br>
'''Bullet with Butterfly Wings'''<br>
> '''Once in a Lifetime'''<br>
BC at 4:25, spoken word: I can still smell Britney.  She’s still here somewhere.  And Christina, she’s here, I can smell her.  And the Backstreet Boys, they’re here somewhere.  And N Sync, they’re here too, I can feel them.  I can feel them.  No, listen, it’s not their fault that music sucks so bad.  Actually, I blame Generation X bands, we’re to blame for things being so bad.  We take all the blame.  Actually, I’ll take all the blame.  Me.  Bill Corgan.  I’ll take all the blame.  I think it’s my fault that things are the way they are right now.  If our music hadn’t been so depressing, who knows what could’ve happened.<br>
Iha: Uh, you had a good point there, man.  ...  “Am I original?  Am I sexual?"<br>
'''Everybody (Backstreet's Back)''' (tease - Iha sings two lines)<br>
BC: No, usually, usually we, uh, we get to this part in the song and the band does a dramatic - I’m letting you look behind our Magic Kingdom here.  Um, heh heh heh, I swear.  Usually the band does like a dramatic stop and then everything gets very awkward like it is now, and uh...yes.  And, um, and usually I have to think of something clever to say, which unfortunately I can’t think of anything clever to say right now.  But um, sometimes we chant as a unit, you know, all of us collectively and it makes us all feel better although we’re completely helpless.  And um...yes.  Um, yes. ...  So, of course I brought this song to a screeching halt and now I know no way to get back out of it, so um....  Drum solo?  I don’t know.  Jimmy, Jimmy, doesn’t believe in drum solos.  He believes in flying solo.  Han Solo, I know he’s your favorite, Han Solo is your favorite Star Wars.  Uh, you could, um, James is a very good yodeler, he could yodel.  I know, I know, and also, you may not know this, he has a very, uh, naturally deep voice.  He’s planning an aria with that really annoying 14-year-old that sings opera on those commercials.  Him and Andrea Bocelli and that annoying girl are going to do an opera.<br>
Iha: ''(sings opera)'' Thank you.<br>
BC: Melissa can talk about Canada!<br>
Melissa: We are far from Canada, aren’t we, Florida?  Oh, it’s all hot and sweaty and dirty here.  It’s very pure and cold in the north but I know that I’ll probably retire here so I’ll see you then.  And now we must continue to rock.<br>
BC: So uh, I quite frankly don’t know how to get out of this awkward moment, so....  We were playing one concert a couple of weeks ago and we were live on the radio and the radio station had asked me not to swear and then, uh, so then we all chanted “What the fuck is going on?” together.  Everybody seemed to like that, it made everyone feel better.  And see, you probably already read about everything we’ve already done on this tour on the internet so you’re not surprised at all with anything we can do so...that’s always that.<br>
''(audience chants “What the fuck?”)''
BC: It’s actually “What the fuck is going on?”  It has more rhythm, you’ll see.  What the fuck is going on?  ''(audience chants)''  What the fuck is going on, what the fuck is going on, what the fuck is going on....<br>
''(audience chants and leads to band going back into song)''<br>
BC: That was alright.  That wasn’t bad.  James, would you like some more awkward moments?  You want more awkward moments?<br>
'''We Love You''' (abandoned - kind of falls apart after 2 verses and a chorus)<br>
BC: There you go.  Right there.  Wait, no!  That’s the perfect ending.  Thank you, we love you.<br>
[encore break]<br>
Iha: Thank you, thank you, you guys are great.  Was that painful?  That last bit?  Was it okay?  It was painful for me.<br>
'''Mayonaise'''<br>
Iha: Thank you everybody.  Thank you everybody.<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
== Photos & Memorabilia ==
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Latest revision as of 15:41, 5 February 2021

The Smashing Pumpkins
Date 2000-05-08
Venue Hard Rock Live
Location Orlando, FL, US
Venue Type Club
Capacity 3000
Lineup Corgan, Iha, Chamberlin, Auf der Maur
Order of Bands The Smashing Pumpkins
Surfaced Recordings
AUD #1
Source AUD
Format DAT
Equipment OKM-IIr > M1(48k)
Length 34m
Complete? No
Lowest Circulating Generation DDC-1 > FLAC
Live Music Archive 16-bit download
Notes Ends during Heavy Metal Machine.
AUD #2
Source AUD
Format MD
Equipment CSB > MZ-R55
Length 129m
Complete? Yes
Lowest Circulating Generation MD-M > CDR
Live Music Archive 16-bit download
AMT #1
Source AUD
Format Video8
Equipment Unknown
Length 128m
Complete? Yes
YouTube YouTube
Release 20210205-Release-2000-05-08AMT1
Notes Cuts between two tape changes. Glass cuts in. A master transfer was circulated February 2021.
Unsurfaced Recordings

Setlist


Set:

  • Glass and the Ghost Children
  • I of the Mourning
  • This Time
  • The Everlasting Gaze
  • Heavy Metal Machine
  • Blue Skies Bring Tears
  • Blew Away
  • Stand Inside Your Love
  • To Sheila
  • Raindrops + Sunshowers
  • Disarm
  • Ava Adore
  • Today
  • Tonight, Tonight
  • Rock On [Essex]
  • Zero
  • Perfect
  • Age of Innocence
  • Cherub Rock

Encore One:

  • Blank Page
  • Bullet with Butterfly Wings
    • Once in a Lifetime [Talking Heads] [4:13]
  • Everybody (Backstreet's Back) [The Backstreet Boys] (tease)
  • We Love You

Encore Two:

  • Mayonaise

Notes

  • To Sheila, Disarm, and Ava Adore performed acoustic
  • Billy tells a quick story about Bob the hippie while introducing Disarm (see banter below); he tells a much better version of the story during his introduction for Today at the VH1 Storytellers taping on 2000-08-24
  • Billy reads a letter from a fan during Blank Page
  • Final performance of We Love You

Banter

Glass and the Ghost Children
I of the Mourning
This Time
The Everlasting Gaze
> Heavy Metal Machine
BC: Good evening.
Iha: Hello.
BC: Hi. Sorry, I just gotta take some pills, hold on.
Iha: How are you? You okay?
BC: Heh heh heh. Yes. Thank you.
Blue Skies Bring Tears
Blew Away
Stand Inside Your Love
Le Deux Machina (tape)
To Sheila (Billy acoustic w/Iha)
BC: I’d like to, uh, play a song, uh, this is only the second time I ever played this song live so.... The first time I played it, everybody left ‘cause they didn’t like it. Oh, it’s called, uh, Sunshowers and Raindrops or something.
Raindrops + Sunshowers (Billy solo electric)
BC: Thank you. So, um, we’re gonna do one of those, uh, VH1 Storytellers. So I thought I’d start practicing now. This next song, um, I used to live with this, uh, this hippie named Bob, and uh...James knew Bob too.
Iha: Yes, I knew Bob. Bob was very weird. Heh, what’re you doing, “Thank you, Bob.” You didn’t know - you didn’t want to know Bob.
BC: I mean, there’s good hippies and bad hippies and Bob was a bad hippie.
Iha: (hippie voice) That’s right, man. They fucking weren’t out there at the shit like I was. Copters.
BC: So, um, I guess that’s the story behind this song then.
Disarm (acoustic)
Ava Adore (acoustic)
Today
Tonight, Tonight
Rock On
> Zero
BC: Thank you, heh, thank you very much.
Iha: That’s nice.
BC: On the drums, Mr. Jimmy Chamberlin.
Iha: On the bass guitar, Melissa Auf der Maur.
BC: I think I can, uh, I think now know what the influence of your race car driving has on the songs. Okay, now we’d like to go back into depression. This, uh, this concert’s a little too happy. We must play sad songs to feel comfortable. This is, uh, a song off, uh, this album we put out called Adore, I don’t know if you ever heard of it. We actually recorded it in 1988 but we put it out in 1998. Whatever. This is called Perfect, thank you.
Perfect
> Age of Innocence
> Cherub Rock
Iha: Thank you.
[encore break]
Blank Page
(BC over outro: Dear Billy - wait, James.)
BC: Dear - you gotta hear this. Wait, no, seriously. Um, just seeing if that’s a bomb. “Dear Billy, I’ve lived here my whole life and you remind me of one of those Disney characters. I know that deep inside your hollow shell, you are nothing but a worthless piece of shit. If only Walt Disney was alive, he would kick your ass and charge you royalties for stealing his cartoon gimmicks of fakery and malice.”
Iha: I like that.
BC: Wait, wait, there’s more. There’s more.
Iha: The first sentence was nice though, we gotta concentrate on what’s nice and positive.
BC: Stay on the positive. Wait! There is a nice part here at the end. Wait, there is a nice part at the end. “P.S. You guys were good around Gish, please go back to playing that kind of music.”
Iha: I, uh, I heard a couple negatives in there but I counted two positive points they made and uh, after the show, we’re gonna analyze it and you’ll see some results pretty soon.
Bullet with Butterfly Wings
> Once in a Lifetime
BC at 4:25, spoken word: I can still smell Britney. She’s still here somewhere. And Christina, she’s here, I can smell her. And the Backstreet Boys, they’re here somewhere. And N Sync, they’re here too, I can feel them. I can feel them. No, listen, it’s not their fault that music sucks so bad. Actually, I blame Generation X bands, we’re to blame for things being so bad. We take all the blame. Actually, I’ll take all the blame. Me. Bill Corgan. I’ll take all the blame. I think it’s my fault that things are the way they are right now. If our music hadn’t been so depressing, who knows what could’ve happened.
Iha: Uh, you had a good point there, man. ... “Am I original? Am I sexual?"
Everybody (Backstreet's Back) (tease - Iha sings two lines)
BC: No, usually, usually we, uh, we get to this part in the song and the band does a dramatic - I’m letting you look behind our Magic Kingdom here. Um, heh heh heh, I swear. Usually the band does like a dramatic stop and then everything gets very awkward like it is now, and uh...yes. And, um, and usually I have to think of something clever to say, which unfortunately I can’t think of anything clever to say right now. But um, sometimes we chant as a unit, you know, all of us collectively and it makes us all feel better although we’re completely helpless. And um...yes. Um, yes. ... So, of course I brought this song to a screeching halt and now I know no way to get back out of it, so um.... Drum solo? I don’t know. Jimmy, Jimmy, doesn’t believe in drum solos. He believes in flying solo. Han Solo, I know he’s your favorite, Han Solo is your favorite Star Wars. Uh, you could, um, James is a very good yodeler, he could yodel. I know, I know, and also, you may not know this, he has a very, uh, naturally deep voice. He’s planning an aria with that really annoying 14-year-old that sings opera on those commercials. Him and Andrea Bocelli and that annoying girl are going to do an opera.
Iha: (sings opera) Thank you.
BC: Melissa can talk about Canada!
Melissa: We are far from Canada, aren’t we, Florida? Oh, it’s all hot and sweaty and dirty here. It’s very pure and cold in the north but I know that I’ll probably retire here so I’ll see you then. And now we must continue to rock.
BC: So uh, I quite frankly don’t know how to get out of this awkward moment, so.... We were playing one concert a couple of weeks ago and we were live on the radio and the radio station had asked me not to swear and then, uh, so then we all chanted “What the fuck is going on?” together. Everybody seemed to like that, it made everyone feel better. And see, you probably already read about everything we’ve already done on this tour on the internet so you’re not surprised at all with anything we can do so...that’s always that.
(audience chants “What the fuck?”) BC: It’s actually “What the fuck is going on?” It has more rhythm, you’ll see. What the fuck is going on? (audience chants) What the fuck is going on, what the fuck is going on, what the fuck is going on....
(audience chants and leads to band going back into song)
BC: That was alright. That wasn’t bad. James, would you like some more awkward moments? You want more awkward moments?
We Love You (abandoned - kind of falls apart after 2 verses and a chorus)
BC: There you go. Right there. Wait, no! That’s the perfect ending. Thank you, we love you.
[encore break]
Iha: Thank you, thank you, you guys are great. Was that painful? That last bit? Was it okay? It was painful for me.
Mayonaise
Iha: Thank you everybody. Thank you everybody.

Photos & Memorabilia

00XXXX-Shirt.jpg
2000.05.08ts.jpg