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Encore Two:
Encore Two:
* Zero
* Zero
* Gossamer
* Gossamer [30:05]
 
=== Notes ===
* The Leaving Lament, Mama, Promise Me, To Sheila, Thirty-three, and Rocket performed acoustic
* First performance of Death From Above
* Only performance of Promise Me
* Final performances of Translucent and 7 Shades of Black


== Banter ==
== Banter ==
<blockquote>
<blockquote>
(unknown)
'''The Leaving Lament''' (Billy solo acoustic)<br>
'''Mama''' (acoustic)<br>
BC: Thank you very much.  Like to play a new song for you this evening.  It’s a premiere.<br>
'''Promise Me''' (acoustic)<br>
'''With Every Light''' (abandoned before lyrics)<br>
BC: Who is that beautiful Indian girl that came onstage?  Who was that?  Just wandered onstage.<br>
Lisa: It was the ghost.<br>
BC: It was the ghost of the Fillmore.<br>
'''With Every Light''' (acoustic)<br>
'''Blue Skies Bring Tears'''<br>
> '''Tonight, Tonight'''<br>
'''Tarantula'''<br>
> '''Cherub Rock'''<br>
'''Shame'''<br>
> '''The Aeroplane Flies High'''<br>
> '''Hummer'''<br>
> '''Bullet with Butterfly Wings'''<br>
> '''United States'''<br>
BC: Thank you all for coming tonight.  ...  Let’s all take a moment to reflect.  Catch our breath.<br>
Somebody in crowd: Reflect on what?<br>
BC: Reflect on what?  Well, you have two choices.  You can reflect on your miserable, no hope existence...or you can reflect on your hopeless, non-antagonistic existence.  Obviously you’ve chosen path A. ...  Yeah, Jimmy, yeah.  ...  That is your name, right, Jimmy? ...  Okay, reflection time is now over.  Reflection time always gets me into a lot of trouble.<br>
Girl in crowd: WOOOOOOOOO!<br>
BC (quietly): Yeah.<br>
'''To Sheila''' (acoustic)<br>
'''Death From Above''' (Billy w/Lisa)<br>
'''Thirty-three''' (Billy 12-string w/Lisa)<br>
BC: Thank you, thank you. ...  Like to now play a song for you that I wrote when I was a wee lad.<br>
Guy in crowd: Chicago loves you, Billy!<br>
''(Billy starts and stops Rocket numerous times during the next part.)''<br>
BC: We’re, we’re not in Chicago.  We’re in San Bernardino, right?  ''(some boos from crowd)'' I just picked a “San,” I don’t know if there’s any hate there, I’m sorry.  Thought Oakland but then that didn’t sound right.  Now you all don’t like Oakland.  ''(crowd boos)''  See?  The Raiders are comin’ back.  Heh heh, one of these years.  They got a new coach, heh.  Every time I’m here, man, the Raiders, I’m waiting.  I got the black myself.  Actually, you probably don’t realize that one though.  When we designed the, uh, Zero shirt, or I designed the Zero shirt, they said, “What color do you want?” and I said, “Raider colors.”  So [two unintelligible words].  I mean, let’s face it, if we’d gone with the 49er colors, the shirt would not be a classic. ... Do you think Joe Montana’s hair is real?  What is that, what is that thing he’s got right there?  I’m always suspicious, like, Phil Collins, Sting, they get that thing right there, I don’t know what that is.  “Please transfer this, get that out of here.”  So here’s the song, heh heh.<br>
'''Rocket''' (Billy solo acoustic)<br>
'''Translucent'''<br>
> '''Starla'''<br>
'''Doomsday Clock'''<br>
'''7 Shades of Black'''<br>
BC: Hey, it’s time for reflection time 2, heh.  Heh, is everyone having a good time?  Alriiight.  I see no Cosby pick scrimmage (?).  How am I today?  I’m full of hatred and bile.  What do you want me to say, we live in a world full of fucking haters, how do you think I feel?  I feel loved and I feel misunderstood.  I know, it sucks, isn’t it?  I don’t, I mean, I’m a big boy, I can handle it but I-I don’t know about raising children in this world, haha.  I’ll tell you that, for the parents here, it’s a tough job. ...  That’s the light of fatherhood, Jimmy.  Sorry, we’re all just a bit tired still, maybe we should just stop the show here and just call it a day.  ''(lots of booing)'' 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10...''(moves off mic)''  We’ve played 22 songs so far, I think you’ve gotten your money’s worth.  That’s less than a dollar a song, Jeff.  Maybe it’s a little more than a dollar a song, service charges...  I can’t be responsible, sir, for what you paid on eBay, okay, that’s not my problem.  Once it leaves our hands, it’s....<br>
Jeff: Best I can do?<br>
BC: It’s, heh, Jeff, it’s 4:20 always.  Do we have any of those shirts left, do you know?<br>
Jeff: I think we have a few but you can get one tonight.<br>
BC: Alright, the, the limited edition Smashing Pumpkins 4:20 shirts...  We only made 250, we thought they were gonna blow out of Asheville in eight seconds and it just didn’t happen.  Apparently that community has turned against the weed smoking.  They just look like a bunch of weed smokers but they’re not.  Call it, uh, sort of like, I guess it wouldn’t be racial stereotyping, it’d be sort of a cultural stereotyping but when I see the dude with dreads and a hacky sack, I just assume the weed is right behind him.  Yeah.  Course no one here smokes marijuana.  No no, stay away from the mary jane.  I like talkin’ much better than I like playin’.  Just pull a stool and, uh,  Grandpa will tell some stories.  Bill’s Corner.  Come on over to Bill’s Corner, I’ll tell you a story.  See, that’s the way you combat the haters, just good cheer.  Oh yeah, and an album that sells, that’s another way to combat the haters.<br>
At least two guys in the crowd: I bought it!<br>
BC: Thank you.  I know it’s this crazy thing, we actually make the CDs to actually sell them, it’s a crazy...it’s so out there.  Like “Why do you, why would you spend 17 months of your life doing anything?”  “I don’t know, just for fucking kicks, you know.”<br>
Guy in crowd: For this!<br>
BC: Yeah, for the music.  My friend, I wish it was, listen, if it was all about the music, then we’d have a different conversation but it’s obviously not all about the music because look around you, it’s not all about the music, so why’s it my fucking problem it’s all about the music?  It’s not like we’re living in a free world with bartering, okay.  This shit, these weird clothes cost money, man!  Heh heh.  This shit ain’t free.  Look at Ginger over here, she looks like a million bucks, well, it cost a million bucks.  Shit, shit’s, shit ain’t cheap, man.  You should see what she looks like away from the stage, it’s like....  Ah heh heh.  I’m guess I’m a hater too, man!  I’m all about the hate, don’t you know it sells, it’s not about the music, it’s about the hate.  Hate’s comin’ back.  You know, when I did my solo album, Jeff, it was all about the music.  It was like what Jimmy did with Jimmy Chamberlin Complex, it was all about the music.  ''(crowd cheers)''  Obviously they liked your record more than they liked mine.  Why you gotta hate, man, why you gotta hate?  Nothing wrong with a guy and a synthesizer, just love me, man.  I know, I know, you decided not to buy the solo record so I would get angry to come back and want to beat you down with a guitar...''(crowd cheers)''...and look what happened.  And now it’s all about the music again, isn’t it beautiful?  It’s like when I ran into Bon Jovi backstage at that Live Earth thing, he just said, “Brother, it’s all about the music.”  I was like, “I’m with ya.”  What, whatever he says, it’s like...I’m with ya.  Sting...all about the music.  Kanye West....music.  Dude, it’s time for a meltdown, you’ve been asking and you’re getting one right here.  Jeff heard about the old school Billy.  He heard about it, he hasn’t seen it, he’s waiting for the....<br>
Jeff: I’m so happy now that I’m getting to see the press Billy, the angry Billy.<br>
BC: Jeff, it’s all about the music now.<br>
'''Today'''<br>
[encore break]<br>
'''That’s the Way'''<br>
> '''Heavy Metal Machine / White Rabbit'''<br>
BC: Thank you.<br>
[encore break]<br>
BC: Thank you.  Before we finish, I’d just like to say a few things.  Thank you very much for coming tonight.  For those of you without a sense of humor, I was joking before, it was, those were jokes...jokes.  We do, uh, we appreciate you very much and we know, uh, it takes a lot of time and sacrifice to get you here and we appreciate that, we love you very much and, uh...all kidding aside, it really does end up being about the music at the end of the day ‘cause that’s the only good thing out of this whole fucking bunch of bullshit.  Even the bad songs are better than the...whatever, you know what I’m saying.  So, um, hope you all understand the context to that.  It’s, it’s happened to me that people have taken me a little too seriously.  No, really, I know, it’s hard to explain.  Alright, I’ll shut up, but thank you.<br>
'''Zero'''<br>
> '''Gossamer'''<br>
(BC 27 min in: Thank you very much.  We are the Smashing Pumpkins.)<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
== Photos & Memorabilia ==
[[Image:Tsp2007-xx-FillmorePoster_(1).jpg|150px|left]]
[[Image:Tsp2007-FillmoreShirt_back.jpg|150px|left]]
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Latest revision as of 03:28, 28 September 2024

The Smashing Pumpkins
Date 2007-07-16
Venue The Fillmore
Location San Francisco, CA, US
Venue Type Club
Capacity 1200
Lineup Corgan, Chamberlin, Schroeder, Reyes, Harriton
Order of Bands Fair To Midland, The Smashing Pumpkins
Surfaced Recordings
AUD #1
Source AUD
Format WAV
Equipment DPA 4061>Sound Professionals Microtrack Dongle>Microtrack(16/44.1)
Length 176m
Complete? Yes
Lowest Circulating Generation WAV-M>FLAC
Live Music Archive 16-bit recording
AUD #2
Source AUD
Format DAT
Equipment SPPC>Battery Box(195)>TCD-D7
Length 174m
Complete? Yes
Lowest Circulating Generation DAT-M>DVD
Notes Circulates synced to AMT #1.
AMT #1
Source AUD
Format AVCHD
Equipment Sony HDR-SR5
Length 174m
Complete? Yes
Lowest Circulating Generation AVCHD-M>DVD
Notes Circulates synced with AUD #2. Occasional buffer errors. Shaky footage during Thirty-three.
AMT #1a
Source AUD
Format AVCHD
Equipment Sony HDR-SR5
Length 7m
Complete? No
Lowest Circulating Generation AVCHD-M>TS-M
Notes The Aeroplane Flies High only.
AMT #1b
Source AUD
Format AVCHD
Equipment Sony HDR-SR5
Length 9m
Complete? No
Lowest Circulating Generation AVCHD-M>FLV-M
Notes Promise Me and With Every Light only. Synced with AUD #1. MOV file also circulates.
Unsurfaced Recordings
AUD #3
Source AUD
Format MD
Equipment CSBMod>MZ-R90
Length Unknown
Complete? Unknown
Notes "Very close up".
AMT #2
Source AUD
Format MiniDV
Equipment DCR-TRV27
Length ~175m
Complete? Unknown
Notes "Very close up".

Setlist


Set:

  • The Leaving Lament
  • Mama
  • Promise Me
  • With Every Light
  • Blue Skies Bring Tears
  • Tonight, Tonight
  • Tarantula
  • Cherub Rock
  • Shame
  • The Aeroplane Flies High
  • Hummer
  • Bullet with Butterfly Wings
  • United States
  • To Sheila
  • Death from Above
  • Thirty-three
  • Rocket
  • Translucent
    • Starla
  • Doomsday Clock
  • 7 Shades of Black
  • Today

Encore One:

  • That's the Way (My Love Is)
  • Heavy Metal Machine
    • White Rabbit [Jefferson Airplane] (tease)

Encore Two:

  • Zero
  • Gossamer [30:05]

Notes

  • The Leaving Lament, Mama, Promise Me, To Sheila, Thirty-three, and Rocket performed acoustic
  • First performance of Death From Above
  • Only performance of Promise Me
  • Final performances of Translucent and 7 Shades of Black

Banter

The Leaving Lament (Billy solo acoustic)
Mama (acoustic)
BC: Thank you very much. Like to play a new song for you this evening. It’s a premiere.
Promise Me (acoustic)
With Every Light (abandoned before lyrics)
BC: Who is that beautiful Indian girl that came onstage? Who was that? Just wandered onstage.
Lisa: It was the ghost.
BC: It was the ghost of the Fillmore.
With Every Light (acoustic)
Blue Skies Bring Tears
> Tonight, Tonight
Tarantula
> Cherub Rock
Shame
> The Aeroplane Flies High
> Hummer
> Bullet with Butterfly Wings
> United States
BC: Thank you all for coming tonight. ... Let’s all take a moment to reflect. Catch our breath.
Somebody in crowd: Reflect on what?
BC: Reflect on what? Well, you have two choices. You can reflect on your miserable, no hope existence...or you can reflect on your hopeless, non-antagonistic existence. Obviously you’ve chosen path A. ... Yeah, Jimmy, yeah. ... That is your name, right, Jimmy? ... Okay, reflection time is now over. Reflection time always gets me into a lot of trouble.
Girl in crowd: WOOOOOOOOO!
BC (quietly): Yeah.
To Sheila (acoustic)
Death From Above (Billy w/Lisa)
Thirty-three (Billy 12-string w/Lisa)
BC: Thank you, thank you. ... Like to now play a song for you that I wrote when I was a wee lad.
Guy in crowd: Chicago loves you, Billy!
(Billy starts and stops Rocket numerous times during the next part.)
BC: We’re, we’re not in Chicago. We’re in San Bernardino, right? (some boos from crowd) I just picked a “San,” I don’t know if there’s any hate there, I’m sorry. Thought Oakland but then that didn’t sound right. Now you all don’t like Oakland. (crowd boos) See? The Raiders are comin’ back. Heh heh, one of these years. They got a new coach, heh. Every time I’m here, man, the Raiders, I’m waiting. I got the black myself. Actually, you probably don’t realize that one though. When we designed the, uh, Zero shirt, or I designed the Zero shirt, they said, “What color do you want?” and I said, “Raider colors.” So [two unintelligible words]. I mean, let’s face it, if we’d gone with the 49er colors, the shirt would not be a classic. ... Do you think Joe Montana’s hair is real? What is that, what is that thing he’s got right there? I’m always suspicious, like, Phil Collins, Sting, they get that thing right there, I don’t know what that is. “Please transfer this, get that out of here.” So here’s the song, heh heh.
Rocket (Billy solo acoustic)
Translucent
> Starla
Doomsday Clock
7 Shades of Black
BC: Hey, it’s time for reflection time 2, heh. Heh, is everyone having a good time? Alriiight. I see no Cosby pick scrimmage (?). How am I today? I’m full of hatred and bile. What do you want me to say, we live in a world full of fucking haters, how do you think I feel? I feel loved and I feel misunderstood. I know, it sucks, isn’t it? I don’t, I mean, I’m a big boy, I can handle it but I-I don’t know about raising children in this world, haha. I’ll tell you that, for the parents here, it’s a tough job. ... That’s the light of fatherhood, Jimmy. Sorry, we’re all just a bit tired still, maybe we should just stop the show here and just call it a day. (lots of booing) 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10...(moves off mic) We’ve played 22 songs so far, I think you’ve gotten your money’s worth. That’s less than a dollar a song, Jeff. Maybe it’s a little more than a dollar a song, service charges... I can’t be responsible, sir, for what you paid on eBay, okay, that’s not my problem. Once it leaves our hands, it’s....
Jeff: Best I can do?
BC: It’s, heh, Jeff, it’s 4:20 always. Do we have any of those shirts left, do you know?
Jeff: I think we have a few but you can get one tonight.
BC: Alright, the, the limited edition Smashing Pumpkins 4:20 shirts... We only made 250, we thought they were gonna blow out of Asheville in eight seconds and it just didn’t happen. Apparently that community has turned against the weed smoking. They just look like a bunch of weed smokers but they’re not. Call it, uh, sort of like, I guess it wouldn’t be racial stereotyping, it’d be sort of a cultural stereotyping but when I see the dude with dreads and a hacky sack, I just assume the weed is right behind him. Yeah. Course no one here smokes marijuana. No no, stay away from the mary jane. I like talkin’ much better than I like playin’. Just pull a stool and, uh, Grandpa will tell some stories. Bill’s Corner. Come on over to Bill’s Corner, I’ll tell you a story. See, that’s the way you combat the haters, just good cheer. Oh yeah, and an album that sells, that’s another way to combat the haters.
At least two guys in the crowd: I bought it!
BC: Thank you. I know it’s this crazy thing, we actually make the CDs to actually sell them, it’s a crazy...it’s so out there. Like “Why do you, why would you spend 17 months of your life doing anything?” “I don’t know, just for fucking kicks, you know.”
Guy in crowd: For this!
BC: Yeah, for the music. My friend, I wish it was, listen, if it was all about the music, then we’d have a different conversation but it’s obviously not all about the music because look around you, it’s not all about the music, so why’s it my fucking problem it’s all about the music? It’s not like we’re living in a free world with bartering, okay. This shit, these weird clothes cost money, man! Heh heh. This shit ain’t free. Look at Ginger over here, she looks like a million bucks, well, it cost a million bucks. Shit, shit’s, shit ain’t cheap, man. You should see what she looks like away from the stage, it’s like.... Ah heh heh. I’m guess I’m a hater too, man! I’m all about the hate, don’t you know it sells, it’s not about the music, it’s about the hate. Hate’s comin’ back. You know, when I did my solo album, Jeff, it was all about the music. It was like what Jimmy did with Jimmy Chamberlin Complex, it was all about the music. (crowd cheers) Obviously they liked your record more than they liked mine. Why you gotta hate, man, why you gotta hate? Nothing wrong with a guy and a synthesizer, just love me, man. I know, I know, you decided not to buy the solo record so I would get angry to come back and want to beat you down with a guitar...(crowd cheers)...and look what happened. And now it’s all about the music again, isn’t it beautiful? It’s like when I ran into Bon Jovi backstage at that Live Earth thing, he just said, “Brother, it’s all about the music.” I was like, “I’m with ya.” What, whatever he says, it’s like...I’m with ya. Sting...all about the music. Kanye West....music. Dude, it’s time for a meltdown, you’ve been asking and you’re getting one right here. Jeff heard about the old school Billy. He heard about it, he hasn’t seen it, he’s waiting for the....
Jeff: I’m so happy now that I’m getting to see the press Billy, the angry Billy.
BC: Jeff, it’s all about the music now.
Today
[encore break]
That’s the Way
> Heavy Metal Machine / White Rabbit
BC: Thank you.
[encore break]
BC: Thank you. Before we finish, I’d just like to say a few things. Thank you very much for coming tonight. For those of you without a sense of humor, I was joking before, it was, those were jokes...jokes. We do, uh, we appreciate you very much and we know, uh, it takes a lot of time and sacrifice to get you here and we appreciate that, we love you very much and, uh...all kidding aside, it really does end up being about the music at the end of the day ‘cause that’s the only good thing out of this whole fucking bunch of bullshit. Even the bad songs are better than the...whatever, you know what I’m saying. So, um, hope you all understand the context to that. It’s, it’s happened to me that people have taken me a little too seriously. No, really, I know, it’s hard to explain. Alright, I’ll shut up, but thank you.
Zero
> Gossamer
(BC 27 min in: Thank you very much. We are the Smashing Pumpkins.)

Photos & Memorabilia